A deck of $ n$ playing cards, which contains three aces, is shuffled at random (it is assumed that all possible card distributions are equally likely). The cards are then turned up one by one from the top until the second ace appears. Prove that the expected (average) number of cards to be turned up is $ (n+1)/2$.
Problem
Source: 1975 USAMO Problem 5
Tags: probability, symmetry, expected value
15.03.2010 05:43
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15.03.2010 06:07
Hi;
15.03.2010 12:46
15.03.2010 14:41
Am I not getting something? (The answer is right.)
16.03.2010 04:16
math_explorer wrote: Am I not getting something? (The answer is right.)
No, that's completely correct.
04.04.2010 20:43
04.01.2023 23:50
Consider each of the $n-3$ other cards. For each card, consider its position relative to the three aces. It has a 1/2 chance of being in either the first or second position (i.e. before the second ace) since there are four possible positions. Therefore, by LOE, the expected number of non-ace cards before the second ace is (n-3)/2, so the answer is 2 + (n-3)/2 = (n+1)/2
14.04.2023 03:37
Hmm, am I missing something? Suppose we take the three aces, in their expected value places. Then they split the deck up into equivalent four piles (since they are in their expected value places), each with size (n-3)/4. Then the number of cards needed to be flipped is 2 piles * (n-3)/4 + 1 first ace + 1 second ace = (n-3)/2+2=(n+1)/2, as desired. $\blacksquare$ also, can someone tell me if this is rigorous, or if there is a specific theorem name for this? I am sure that there is a formal name and that I cannot just say “in their expected value places”
14.04.2023 03:43
That is correct. I believe you mean LoE (Linearity of Expectation)?
27.04.2023 04:41
This is obviously true by symmetry. We can consider a contradiction, that the ev is not equal to $(n+1)/2$. In other words the expected value is not in the middle of the deck. Then that means that we get a different expected value if we turn the cards over from left to right or right to left (assuming we lay the cards in a line on flat ground). But it should make no difference from which side we flip over the cards from so if we have different expectations from each side, we have a contradiction.