Let $p,q$ and $s{}$ be prime numbers such that $2^sq =p^y-1$ where $y > 1.$ Find all possible values of $p.$
Problem
Source: Russian TST 2014, Day 11 P2 (Groups A & B)
Tags: number theory, prime numbers
09.01.2024 01:27
Are you sure that you did not miss a condition? In particular, we would need to solve $5^y-1=4q$ i.e. to decide whether $\frac{5^y-1}{4}$ is prime infinitely often (clearly, then $y$ also has to be prime). This should be roughly as hard as the question of infinitude of Mersenne primes, in particular the answer should be yes, but it is probably extremely hard to prove (and of course impossible to "write down" all the solutions). E.g. for $y=47$ we apparently get the prime number solution $q=\frac{5^{47}-1}{4}$...
09.01.2024 01:41
Oops, I missed that we only need to find the values of $p$ (instead of finding all solutions).
09.01.2024 06:37
We define that:$ x=ord_p(a)$ is the smallest positiveinterger satified $a^x\equiv 1\mod p$ It's easy to see that $a^t \equiv 1 \mod p \Leftrightarrow x\mid t$ We have $2^sq=p^y-1=(p-1)(p^{y-1}+...+p+1)$ If y have $\ge 2$ prime divisors difine that is m,n if $r\mid\dfrac{p^m-1}{p-1},r\mid \dfrac{p^n-1}{p-1}$ it's easy to see $m=n=ord_r(p)$ (r is prime number) $\rightarrow wrong$ So y is prime number we also have $\dfrac{p^y-1}{p-1},p-1$ have the same set of prime divisors We have $\gcd(\dfrac{p^y-1}{p-1},p-1)\mid p$ so $p^y-1=p-1$ or $p^y-1=y(p-1)$ $\textbf{Case 1}$$p^y-1=p-1$ it's wrong because $y>1$ $\textbf{Case 2}$$p^y-1=y(p-1)=2^s.q\rightarrow y=2$ or $y=q$ If $y=2\rightarrow y=p+1\rightarrow p=2(unsatisfactory)$ If $y=q\rightarrow p-1=2^s,q\mid p-1\rightarrow y=q=2\rightarrow p^2-1=2^s\rightarrow p=3$
09.01.2024 14:15
hungt1k31cht wrote: we also have $\dfrac{p^y-1}{p-1},p-1$ have the same set of prime divisors Why?
13.01.2024 12:54
hungt1k31cht wrote: We define that:$ x=ord_p(a)$ is the smallest positiveinterger satified $a^x\equiv 1\mod p$ It's easy to see that $a^t \equiv 1 \mod p \Leftrightarrow x\mid t$ We have $2^sq=p^y-1=(p-1)(p^{y-1}+...+p+1)$ If y have $\ge 2$ prime divisors difine that is m,n if $r\mid\dfrac{p^m-1}{p-1},r\mid \dfrac{p^n-1}{p-1}$ it's easy to see $m=n=ord_r(p)$ (r is prime number) $\rightarrow wrong$ So y is prime number we also have $\dfrac{p^y-1}{p-1},p-1$ have the same set of odd prime divisors We have $\gcd(\dfrac{p^y-1}{p-1},p-1)\mid y$ so $p^y-1=p-1$ or $p^y-1=y(p-1)$ $\textbf{Case 1}$$p^y-1=p-1$ it's wrong because $y>1$ $\textbf{Case 2}$$p^y-1=y(p-1)=2^s.q\rightarrow y=2$ or $y=q$ If $y=2\rightarrow y=p+1\rightarrow p=2(unsatisfactory)$ If $y=q\rightarrow p-1=2^s,q\mid p-1\rightarrow y=q=2\rightarrow p^2-1=2^s\rightarrow p=3$
13.01.2024 12:55
Tintarn wrote: hungt1k31cht wrote: we also have $\dfrac{p^y-1}{p-1},p-1$ have the same set of prime divisors Why? sorry that is odd prime divisors
15.01.2025 17:50
I think this question can be solved using Zsigmondy's theorem, but some anomalies arise.